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#41 MeiLing

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 02:06 PM

Well someone should file a claim: Violation of privacy, hacking. It might be surely fun to watch the reactions. They are lot of rumors here. I have been playing since a year now...and I never met anyone with this kind of issues. I have met victims of "rape", found the rapper and shove them in my ignore list. About the rest: nothing.


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#42 AlexRyder

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 04:38 PM

had someone in wc say people were starting viruses in 3dx. said that if more then 8 people said a word at the same time the virus would get everyone currently logged in. i really wish i knew where these people come up with this shit

Can't say anything about viruses (lol), but the game needs to know the list of currently online users at any given time, so it's quite easy to get this info. Though what harm can be done by knowing if you're online or not? O_o

 

About FL, It was in older version I got that some people can access to it, so nice if they can't in new version (at this time, in current version, I never catch that some player can read FL of others). But what about actions? (slowdance, partner, Home invitation, etc.). Also how Pandora can get deleted characters?

 

About hack of the server game, is it impossibe that happen? Do some players of the game can see IP adress of this server and have to send files to it also? (I think about all DJ who play music in public maps for example).

The earliest version of the game I have is 335 and it requires your password to get the friend/ignore list. Can't say what was or was not possible before that version.

 

I think I wrote about actions in detail here on the forums already somewhere. Some of them require confirmation or need to be executed in the correct sequence by both participants to work, but basically yes, you can send random commands to the server some of which can be executed (like make a random character walk somewhere and so on). 

 

The Pandora, I suppose, is just constantly monitoring the player's profiles and other info provided by the server, so it just tracks if a character or some other info has been deleted and marks it as that.

 

Hacking the 3dx server would be as hard (or easy?) as hacking any other server that is there on the net. It would certainly require the skills in the field. Also, it would be a subject for all kinds of legal pursuit %)

 

The server does not share user IPs with other clients, each client is connected to the server and only the server knows the IP. Radio streaming is a whole another matter though. It is not really a part of the game and just uses the BASS audio library to handle this stuff. So if you're streaming from your PC directly, every listener will of course have your IP. But if you're using some streaming server for that, the listeners will only get the streaming service IP.


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#43 AlexRyder

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 05:05 PM

The user id is just an md5 checksum of your login e-mail. Each user profile contains an element with the user id, so it's quite easy to figure out the chars on the same account.



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Posted 06 August 2017 - 09:20 AM

Thank you to clarifying Alex.

 

About Pandora service, It doesnot seem unwholesome at this time ( maybe for unrespectful players it is :P ). So hope it will stay like this.

Maybe this service should be integrate directly in the game, like this all cheaters will have to create new account for staying hidden^^ (will increase money for 3DXchat lol).

 

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 10:25 AM

Why do you call people with multi avatar: cheaters? They can be useful por RP purpose...So I don't understand the point. You know all totalitarianism begins with the notion of purity blood, race, ideology, etc. I am always wondering when I read this kind of commentS. Well as you say in France; balayez devant votre porte before calling other cheaters. We all are cheaters for someone in the game.


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Posted 06 August 2017 - 10:34 AM

Why do you call people with multi avatar: cheaters? They can be useful por RP purpose...So I don't understand the point. You know all totalitarianism begins with the notion of purity blood, race, ideology, etc. I am always wondering when I read this kind of commentS. Well as you say in France; balayez devant votre porte before calling other cheaters. We all are cheaters for someone in the game.

 

Hi MeiLing,

 

I don't say that all multi avatars are cheaters, I have one alt too and my main avi is black but i am white irl. I just say that some people use it for cheating and will not like Pandora service.

We have all right to have 3 different characters in this game and it is fine fine for me :)

 

Wish you a lot of fun RP dear :) 



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Posted 06 August 2017 - 05:34 PM

Well as you say in France; balayez devant votre porte

 

toi, tu devrais penser a balayer ta petite porte arriere aussi  :P  :D  :D  :lol:



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Posted 06 August 2017 - 09:12 PM

I have noticed Gizmo has liked a post or 2 in this thread, so it looks like he is interested in what is said about Pandora.

He has also stated he will be doing something about Pandora.

My question is will there be any information given from him as to what he intends to do, or maybe some options given where we can vote on which option we feel to be the best. or will the decision just be made by a select few like it has in the past.



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 12:40 AM

One thing you can always do Rob is give me a good laugh, your comparisons to what is going on here did exactly that.



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 02:55 AM

There has been several suggestions made in this thread on what can be done.

Encryption among other things have been suggested.

Encryption from what I understand would involve a lot of work and can also slow the game considerably.

History of the game has also shown the devs have been willing to take away the full account ignore to stop people from being able to use it to get information.

The full account ignore is how these people are able to get our user ids which enables them to find out the other avis on accounts.

They may decide to stop the ability to hack the dll file, and that is not as hard to do as some seem to suggest.

 

There are several ways the devs could go with this, some of which we loose out on things that pretty well all of us would not want to loose.

It also involves making decisions on what to do about the miss use of alts and how people should be able to use them, as that is the main reason Pandora is able to get people to use it.

 

History has also shown that things said in these forums accounts for very little in the decision making made by the devs.

The only thing that has seem to count are poles that have been held on different subjects.

 

Do I think we should be able to have a say in what gets done about this, you bet I do.

Do I think the people in here deserve a vote on what is done in this game, you bet I do.

And to be right up front in what I think, I think the devs need that help in making this decision, they need to present the different ideas they have and do a pole.



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 03:14 AM

It is very likely they will just do what they want to do, not even consider what we want, as history has shown.

That would not however show you to be correct, what they do and the response to what they do after it will show who to be correct.



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 01:07 PM

Personally , Pandora don't scare me ( as long as they can't force me to have sex with a male avi ) . They can see my profile ? and what ? it's not secret . They can see my pic galery ? and what ? it's public too or i would not have a pic galery . They can check my alt ? I don't care , every of my friends know i have an alt that i use only when there is cosplay events lol .


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#53 Twiggy

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 01:51 PM

Yes Leeloo, I am starting to tend to agree.

It is kind of pointless now the devs doing anything, what damage Pandora can do has or already been or is being done.

Even if the devs do something now to prevent Pandora from getting any new information it will still hold information from how ever long it has been going for.

So anyone that has done something in that time they are worried about being found out, that information will still be there.

So for those that have, sorry no hiding from it guys.

I to have nothing I am worried about that they can find, I was told no pictures are in mine so I don't have to worry about the only thing that concerned me.

What I have seen though is a lot of people are doing some pretty strange things, seem to be worried about being found out.

I have noticed a lot of people have vanished or are not venturing into the game and quite a few things where people have already been found out.

Those that have been found out and are now paying the price for doing what they use to sware to be innocent and just playing the game.

So in many ways Pandora has done some good, even though tensions are high at the moment in some cases.

As someone who I have always found very wise just told me, things may be tense and a little difficult at the moment, but what will eventually happen is it will all sort itself out and could make things a lot better.

I think people will think twice now before they choose to live double lives in the game or create alts to play mind games with people.



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 11:21 AM

Anywa , i think that since the "ignore full account" option was made , the one who want to hide use more than one account instead of more than one avatar on an account . Pandora seem just a bit more precise than the ignore account option lol



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 07:56 PM

No it's not. Because we have no privacy breach and no leak.

All the important private data regarding your orders is stored on the BMT Micro servers and it's impossible to get it. Also BMT Micro does not store credit cards info.

 

The goal of this topic is to keep you informed guys, and warn you to not use your private data on public profiles, pics and etc.

 

Of course we at the dev team are trying to find out the best way to improve our game. For example we can implement data encryption between game client and server, also track and block IPs of scanners, or even rework the whole game architecture by removing players tags and 'account wide' ignore option.

 

 

As well as search engine scanners. Google crawler for example. It grabs all public data on websites and index / store all captured info.

and yet i reported showed proof of an individual hacking my Avi, you guys did nothing. I showed him threatening, you guys did nothing not even a suspension. Made him head DJ instead. 


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 12:34 PM

and yet i reported showed proof of an individual hacking my Avi, you guys did nothing. I showed him threatening, you guys did nothing not even a suspension. Made him head DJ instead. 

 

I don't think that this incident is Pandora related, but it's still serious and deserves to have a temp-ban respond if it really happened and you have proof of it.



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 01:02 AM

Yep and handed it to Gizmo. As for Pandora, everyone has a reason for making alts, if you do it for malice don't bitch if you get caught. If you do it for other reasons say so, more then likely your partner will forgive. 


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 09:14 AM

This still falls under the community rules, especially since a few people who have access to this 'hack' are using it to bully other players.

It is still possible now in october 2017 to see other people accounts. This is unaacpetable froma privacy point of view. I play this game under assumption that also the privacy of my other accounts can not be seen or disclosed. The players using pandora to bully me are making me feel vulnerable and I think about stopping this game. The suggestion by Gizmo to take other accounts to avoid this is ridiculous. It will cost me triple money. I know 3DX wants us to pay more and more. But if 3DX provides in max 3 accounts for one subscription then 3DX should guarantee that those other 2 accounts can not be seen by others.  



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:06 AM

I was told by an ex they had been approached anonymously and given supposed details of alts I've been using. It's pathetic that some choose to try and spoil the game for others by thinking they're doing us all a favour and exposing other player's details. 

 

I have nothing to hide from anyone, I just wish these pathetic cowards would grow some balls and approach directly rather than hiding themselves when they "spill the beans" All they do is cause more grief and drama unnecessarily. My ex was on her way out of the game and was told stuff about me to her and no option to challenge. That's cowardly but hey, people who use pandora are.....

 

Haters will always hate and end up being even sadder and twisted, not to mention far detached from reality.    


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:49 PM

It is still possible now in october 2017 to see other people accounts. This is unaacpetable froma privacy point of view. I play this game under assumption that also the privacy of my other accounts can not be seen or disclosed. The players using pandora to bully me are making me feel vulnerable and I think about stopping this game. The suggestion by Gizmo to take other accounts to avoid this is ridiculous. It will cost me triple money. I know 3DX wants us to pay more and more. But if 3DX provides in max 3 accounts for one subscription then 3DX should guarantee that those other 2 accounts can not be seen by others.

You don't get three accounts, you get three characters or avatars if you like that term more. This is a big difference. And the whole thing is pretty easy, you as a player has an unique ID for your account and this id is used for the ignore function. Otherwise you couldn't block a whole player from bullying you. So also without Pandora it is possible for some to find out your alts but sure it's a bit more complicated and require some basic investigation skills. Through this id Pandora is able to connect your alts together. But again, you don't pay for three separate accounts, just for three characters for roleplaying stuff.

I don't like the existence of Pandora too but cause of other reasons. Gifts and images should not be cached and searchable forever. Also gives Pandora other blocked players the ability to see your profile again.
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