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#21 RobT

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:40 AM

Porn isn't personal..there is no interaction.

nor are you getting basic human needs such as touch etc from rp. only because at the end of the day you are touching yourself and thats not the same thing no matter how great you are at rping. 



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Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:44 AM

Discussion is pointless, wither you get 'basic human needs' is up to the individual not some society or science dictate.


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:49 AM

Discussion is pointless, wither you get 'basic human needs' is up to the individual not some society or science dictate.

not really sure where i said i was speaking for society. everyone speaks for themselves. Nor did i frame it as such 


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Posted 09 May 2017 - 10:23 AM

Dear Christ, I sure hope not. Nothin - and I mean NOTHIN - beats good ol' natural sex. ;)



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Posted 09 May 2017 - 10:26 AM

No it won't, for two reasons:

 

1) People get bored of cybersex. Just look how many people move on from the game and never return. The cyber experience is exciting, but not indefinitely so.

 

2) Androids. They're coming. Virtual worlds like 3dx will become redundant, unless that platform can somehow adapt.

 

This is definitely true. But just think: what if you could control the sex robot that your partner has, and vice versa? So you direct what the robot does, and your partner does the same for theirs, so you're having sex with a robot but a real person is doing all the kissing, biting, licking, sucking and position changing. It'd be the best of both worlds, because you can fuck a sex robot whenever you want, but you still get the intimacy of experiencing it with another human being. They'll probably come out with all kinds of sex robots linked to different software to make it an interactive experience with a partner. 



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Posted 09 May 2017 - 11:13 PM

Well, on the market right now is a vibrating egg that you can control over the internet, or maybe its an app on a phone (MeiLing says she has on) that lesbians can use to make each other cum in RL over the internet. That is so cool... but a little more than I'm into :)



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Posted 10 May 2017 - 03:33 AM

Porn isn't personal..there is no interaction.

This is true, just to see the computer screen does not make us bitchy. It has to be personal.



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Posted 10 May 2017 - 01:58 PM

Well, on the market right now is a vibrating egg that you can control over the internet, or maybe its an app on a phone (MeiLing says she has on) that lesbians can use to make each other cum in RL over the internet. That is so cool... but a little more than I'm into :)

The wonderful thing about those tools is how incredibly insecure some of them are right now, see for example https://www.theregis...netration_test/

 

Yes, we are all facing truly amazing times, when we can visit anyones private parts by just using a smartphone or similar.



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Posted 10 May 2017 - 10:34 PM

I will keep my manual egg :) I don't need to put my pussy online in RL... :)



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 04:55 AM

Eggs control by apps are secured, no problem. There is no interest to have a cam in an egg... More and more people are lonely, the world we live in create loneliness. So the future of sex might interactive sex (like 3Dx), sexbot, connected sex toys, 



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 05:21 AM

While those eggs may have no cam, they must somehow connect and interact with their environment ...

If they use WLAN or Bluetooth, they can be detected by bypassers, and I can easily imagine an app scanning for devices like these. Not sure you wanted everyone around you (office, subway, family) to know that you're using such a thing ... just saying :D

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 06:34 AM

Anything can be secured....and I use them at work when I am too stressed



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:12 AM

In my honest opinion it is all based on the intensity of the stimuli.
Cybersex is something new, so it is attracting a lot of people, plus it is evolving: from adult chats, to 3d sex multiplayer games, to sex toys connected to the game to interact with, to VR, to bodysuits for all-body-parts interaction, and so on with robots and who knows...

I think cybersex will increase in future as a source of fast and safe (at last physically) pleasure.
Nothing to compare with relationships, but this is not the question of the topic.

The real question here is if cybersex (with its continuous evolution) will lead the "sexual pleasure"-commonly-used-form of interaction due to the improving realism. Paradoxically people love and crave realism in cybersex, but they still prefer the safe distance of internet (and I am not talking about anonymity).

So it will be a part of the sex of the future. It will overwhelm common sex (in the matter of fast-pleasure) as already it is doing, due to the easy accessibility thanks to the evolving technology.
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Posted 14 May 2017 - 09:57 PM

If you believe that emotions, sensations, and feelings are nothing more than specific patterns of electric impulses in your brain and body, the argument of "Real sex will always be better" doesn't hold much ground.

 

Assuming we master our own brain at some point in future such that we can simulate the exact sensation of somebody licking that spot of your body that you really like, can you still say real sex feels better?

 

The only reason that right now you think real sex is better is because the specific neurons that get excited during real sex simply don't respond the same way to virtual sex. But what if they did...?

And of course virtual sex doesn't have the level of emotional connection and intimacy that real sex has. But what is emotional connection and intimacy? Is it something beyond electric impulses in your brain that simply cannot be reproduced?

 

In fact, I'd propose that given the assumptions above, it is almost guaranteed that the pleasure simulated through virtual sex can be orders of magnitude more enjoyable than real sex in far enough future (assuming we don't nuke ourselves before then), leaving real sex purely for the purpose of procreation. Assuming we haven't perfected cloning technology by then...

 

Then again, maybe you believe in simulation theory. In which case, what is real sex than just a simulation...inside another simulation...inside another simulation...?

 

Just a thought...  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Posted 14 May 2017 - 10:11 PM

We are all such geeks :D I love the movie 'The Matrix' because it touches on actual virtual reality "If reality is defined by what you can see, touch, smell and hear how can you tell whats real".

 

In the movie "Demolition Man", Sandra Bollack and Arnie S. have 'sex' using a neuro-transmitting device because "fluid transfer" sex has become outlawed. Is this the future?

 

All I know is, as long as I have fingers to play with my clit and vagina I will be happy :)



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Posted 14 May 2017 - 10:32 PM

I love the movie 'The Matrix' because it touches on actual virtual reality "If reality is defined by what you can see, touch, smell and hear how can you tell whats real".

 

That philosophical idea is much older than The Matrix.

 

https://en.wikipedia.../Brain_in_a_vat

https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Evil_demon

 

If the sensation you get when you play with your clit and vagina is purely constructed by your brain, telling you "This is amazing!"...

And if we could reconstruct that exact same sensation through technology, fooling your brain into telling you "This is amazing!"...

 

Then is there really a difference between the simulation and reality?



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 02:43 AM

I forgot taste...It would have to taste like pussy too... :P


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Posted 15 May 2017 - 06:09 AM

The simulation theory is old and one can neither proof nor refute it ultimately, just like the (non) existence of a godlike creature or the tooth fairy.

VR on the other hand is indeed something that will put us into a simulation, one that we have freely submitted ourselves to.

For the rest, I have to agree with Athena, I can't think of a situation where some technology could substitute physical sex. The simulation can become very realistic, but we have much more than the visual sense or the sense of touch.

And, to add to that, nothing better than to wake up in the morning after a night of passionate sex with your lover in your arms.

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 08:13 AM

And, to add to that, nothing better than to wake up in the morning after a night of passionate sex with your lover in your arms.

 

I can agree with that...I love waking up with a boob in my hand. But them comes the RL drama of "the morning after" if shes just a one-night-stand.



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 11:56 PM

The simulation theory is old and one can neither proof nor refute it ultimately, just like the (non) existence of a godlike creature or the tooth fairy.

VR on the other hand is indeed something that will put us into a simulation, one that we have freely submitted ourselves to.

For the rest, I have to agree with Athena, I can't think of a situation where some technology could substitute physical sex. The simulation can become very realistic, but we have much more than the visual sense or the sense of touch.

And, to add to that, nothing better than to wake up in the morning after a night of passionate sex with your lover in your arms.

 

So you're saying we can't prove or disprove simulation theory (which I agree with)...

But you're also saying that it is unthinkable for technology to be able to stimulate your senses exactly as they're stimulated in reality, including the warm and fuzzy feelings you get the morning after a night of passionate sex?

 

Those seem contradictory to me.

 

I'm not talking about replicating the visual sense or the sense of touch. I'm talking about complete and exact replication of brain signals.

I have no doubt that simply replicating the senses would never even compare to the emotional, primal, and intimate aspects that come with real sex. There is no question in that for me.

 

But what you're saying implies that our experiences in reality transcend matter and energy, such that if we had absolute control over matter and energy, we would be unable to replicate our experiences. If you believe that, that's completely fine. As with simulation theory, no one can prove or disprove that...yet.





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