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Poll: Character Name Cost (38 member(s) have cast votes)

Should creating a new character still require XGold?

  1. Yes (16 votes [31.37%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 31.37%

  2. No (19 votes [37.25%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.25%

  3. Allow the option of verifying the availability on names (16 votes [31.37%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 31.37%

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#1 Athene

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 06:20 AM

 Hello and welcome!  :wub:

 

I'm not new here to the game anymore, but I actively see ways of improving it even still. I've been part of the forums for a while and have put forth my input on some development suggestions elsewhere, but one thing has been bothering me for quite a bit... And I feel like it really, seriously, needs to have a change: The ability to check availability on new character names.

 

(The reason there was a cost applied towards the creation was because people were abusing the system and trolling on newly created- then just as newly deleted- characters. The ignore system we have in-game now seems to work quite effectively. I think this alone would solve the problems for many, but perhaps not for all. )

 

I think to meet everyone halfway, of requiring the 10k XGold (not sure if that cost changed) on new characters to avoid drama,would be to also allow people to check availability on the names someone may want. 

 

What this 10k XGold charge has done is nearly require new players to immediately pay MORE $$ (on top of the fee they just paid to join!) in order to either fix the choice they just made/tested (since there is NO WARNING that if what you choose is available is what you're stuck with).

 

TLDR; make it not cost anything to verify the availability of a name before creating a character.
 

Lastly, I just wanted to create a poll to see how many people are even still interested in having the cost on creating new Avi's. It may come across as a bit off-topic to this thread, but they are kind of one in the same... 

 

Edit: Should include that the poll is multiple choice...


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#2 Sage Stoner

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 06:51 AM

You raise some good points. Yes, it would great to be able to check availability without creating a character. Personally, I would rather see them change the system so that the charge is applied to delete a character. That way, new accounts get three free avis.


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Posted 08 January 2017 - 06:51 AM

i voted yes and it should cost 500.000 xgolds  :) so no more alts ^^ just my opinion but i respect everyone's choice.

 

new characters to avoid drama

 

my advice is just to use ignore function.

 

hugs Athene.


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#4 Athene

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 06:58 AM

You raise some good points. Yes, it would great to be able to check availability without creating a character. Personally, I would rather see them change the system so that the charge is applied to delete a character. That way, new accounts get three free avis.

That's actually an incredibly good idea! With the availability to check still.



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Posted 08 January 2017 - 07:01 AM

+1.

 

Imagine my surprise when Mulan was available. But wait, what if there are other cool female superheroes available?! Too late. Now I have to live with my choices of saving China and pretending to be a man, or in 3DX land, a man pretending to be a woman! It is all very confusing. Needless to say, I am happy with my choice of name. But it would be nice to ask if you are really really sure that xXCumSlut69Xx (if that is your actual screen name - I am sorry) is really how you wish to be referred to or whether you just had a small rush of blood to the head or you were just curious.

 

It is like naming your own child, except you can delete an online avatar. Okay - bad analogy.


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#6 Xanar

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 07:54 AM

One thing wich could work -> First Avatar is free, second Avatar is free but name will have [Guest] or so at the end of the name UNTIL the player unlocks the name for 10k


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#7 Tauri

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 09:09 AM

My idea would be to make it so there are 2 kinda of characters, main characters that take the 10k gold to make and then alt characters that dont cost much, maybe 1-2k or something like that, the thing about alt characters would be that in the profile or in the name it would show clearly to everyone that interacts with it that is an alt and not the main character they play, ontop of that it could possibly even show who it is an alt of. To me that would make things such as rp characters and such much more common and fun since they dont cost much and it doesnt matter if people know its connected to your account. And it would still allow people to make characters that are completly disconnected from their other characters if they so choose.

 

Just my idea, im sure it can be refined much more.



#8 Athene

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 09:16 AM

I wouldn't mind the clarifying of it being an alt, but of who's alt... I personally don't like that. There's a reason we'd name our alts something like "Xalina" over something similar to our original name, you know?

Basically, it should be up to the user whether they want to give that information away rather than have it publicly broadcasted.


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#9 Tauri

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 09:39 AM

Could simply be an option when you create it if you want it to link to your other characters or not, it would say its an alt regardless though, either by like, different colored name, or a tag in the name like [Alt] which would of course be shown in the profile.



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Posted 08 January 2017 - 12:09 PM

There has been a lot of threads in the past on alts and being able to distinct an alt from a main avi.

There was one in particular where coloring the alts names above our avis different to that of our main avis.

It was argued strongly by both sides with a number of other suggestions being put forward.

The colored names was the most accepted as being the best way to lesson the problem of miss use of alts.

Any suggestions however were strongly argued against by people who simply did not want any change.

It was suggested that coloring the names would be an invasion of privacy and would cause witch hunts to see who owned that alt.

If what I have been told is correct soon after that thread a friend of one of the forum mods had trouble where an alt was miss used, because of that and the threads that continued to be posted discussions were held between the 4 forum mods on what could be done.

They decided the best solution would be to have a charge for the 2nd and 3rd avi slots and put that forward to the devs.

There are quite a lot of people that still feel the coloured names will have been the best solution.

Charging for 2nd and 3rd avis has had an effect but I believe that coloured names will have done much more.

Plus although it does not effect me I can understand why so many are upset about having to pay for the 2nd and 3rd avi slots.

I still don't understand why when there had been threads on the subject going where very much the majority of who agreed something needed to be done agreed the coloured name option to be the best option, why is it that the mods chose to do something else.

And also why was the charge option not put to the rest of us.

My opinion is that it should have been revealed that something will be done about the problem and several options should have been put forward for us to decide which one will be used.



#11 AnyNameWillDo

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 01:05 PM

i voted yes and it should cost 500.000 xgolds   :) so no more alts ^^ just my opinion but i respect everyone's choice.

 

 

my advice is just to use ignore function.

 

hugs Athene.

 

 

The issue of alts is a thorny one. I get why some people like them for RPing but they are also the method through which some people try and manipulate the lives of others. I'm not entirely sure why an avi cannot on the click of a button in character editor flip between physical gender after creation, which would allow trans gender players to more realistically represent their sexuality rather than being made to have two characters in game to do this. Representing the needs of the TG community is one of the strongest arguments in favour of alts but this way a player could have one name AND both genders.

 

As for the general issue of alts, well some of the more determined mind fuckers have more than one account anyway, and are 'open' about the three avis they have in their main account while conducting their mind-fuckery from a entirely separate one. We've all seen that or suspected people of doing that at some point in our time here.

 

In short, I guess in a game of social interaction there will always be sociopaths. But yeah, regarding your point, I'm with you on this one; alts should cost more, not less....

 

And again, as you say, that's just my opinion given with respect to those who disagree...


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#12 meilyn

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 01:52 PM

Well, my thoughts.

 

I loved the way the game worked before the 10k cost were invented.

I love to play different characters from time to time on a hourly base, for me mainly for short sexual RP encounters to tinker around with different characters and physical appearances.

 

 

I told it many times that it would be fine that the game also would have RP AREA where you CAN'T (!!!) enter with your main character.

 

You are forced to create an alt at the entrance and you stick to it as long as you are IN this area. It is deleted when you leave.

You have to make a new one when you enter again. I would allow to save the character on my local disc and load it when I enter the RP AREA again (because of physical appearance, it is often hard to find the ideal settings again).

If the name is chosen, well, just put an X or whatever around. It is just for RP.

 

Anyone who enters this area knows that it is a masquerade ball. We are all alts in there. I think a bit about the masquerade ball in baroque :)

 

 

Outside this area I would stick to the 10k model.

 

With this we had the best of both worlds for the RP and not RP players.


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Posted 08 January 2017 - 03:35 PM

From what I recall the result was from several post by VARIOUS people. Some who had created an account on the forum to specifically air out grievances with mindfuckers. The block feature was changed Gizmo created a poll related to the account wide ban which was 16 pages long of back and forth between opposing sides and those who landed in the middle. In that post Gizmo wrote:


Personally I found that you guys want to block the person, not the character. Also it's funny, someone said "Devs don't try to be a babysitters. Work on the game updates." Haha so true.
Thanks to all of you. All we want is to make 3DXChat community better.
 
I also learned about the so-called mindfuckers. If I understand correctly these players use alts in order to hurt other people here, right?

  

Someone told about IP block. But it doesn't help. Many people have dynamic IP. Also it's very easy to change your IP using VPN, proxy and etc. So we will not talk about how to block multiple accounts.
 
I just want to know what can help to protect players from mindfuckers who used alts. Maybe a feature that allows you to look up alts at any account? Just asking)


More debate and soon after the charge. Let's be real, forum mods never had that much control. The bottom line was they could appease one side by initiating a cost because... You mean THEY could make money from this? Would people actually pay? Ding ding ding, we charge. They took a polarizing topic and made money from it. It appeased those for the fee(not like there was a warning but it made some happy). They might have felt this would stop those mind fuckers. In my opinion the number of posts about the same thing clued them in on a missed opportunity. People may have just thought it was for one reason or another. It's business at the end of the day and I doubt they will ever go back to free slots but maybe they will lesson the costs.
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Posted 08 January 2017 - 03:39 PM

I'm in the yes crowd and I'd also like to add that allowing a name change option would be nice for a cost too. Let them attach the changes to the profiles so there is a list of what they used to be.



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Posted 08 January 2017 - 04:35 PM

just as many around around now as there was when they was free, maybe even more. Raising the cost does nothing, they will just buy another account. if you want to fix the issue, you do some sort of name fix like amber said or maybe even a unique id thats on a corner of profile and ev
ery alt on a account has the same number. Not everyone who has alts are mind fucking people

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 08:08 PM

The "Mind Fuckers" will always find a way to make alts no matter how big or small the paywall is. As Rob said... you can raise the costs, it will do nothing.

 

Altho the name checker would be a great idea. When I was checking if I can get my short name ingame I wasted 20k just to realize it actually costs xGold even tho the character does not go through (as the name wasnt available)



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Posted 08 January 2017 - 09:03 PM

The issue of alts is a thorny one.

 

Oh baloney! It is not. It's just that there is a small group of butthurt people who refuse to let it go. This thread isn't even about "alts," it's about character names and cost. But those same butthurt people are now coming out of the woodwork to whine about "mindfuckers" again.

 

It's as if it were Halloween and some 8-year-old kid changed into a different costume and went around the neighborhood a second time, and now there's a bunch of people standing in a circle whining: He stole our candy, the mindfucker!!  :P


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Posted 08 January 2017 - 09:16 PM

actually  character cost is exactly about an alt since the first one is  free with the account, thats why its called an alternate,



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Posted 08 January 2017 - 09:25 PM

Alts should be free. Maybe somebody created an alt to escape harassment or start afresh. I don't think it's right people should have to either wait until they have sufficient x-gold - maximum of just over a month of logging in daily, quit 3dx or pay extra money. From what I recall there was not a plague of rogue alts "mindfucking" as people are so keen to say.


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Posted 08 January 2017 - 09:32 PM

Oh baloney! It is not. It's just that there is a small group of butthurt people who refuse to let it go. This thread isn't even about "alts," it's about character names and cost. But those same butthurt people are now coming out of the woodwork to whine about "mindfuckers" again.

 

It's as if it were Halloween and some 8-year-old kid changed into a different costume and went around the neighborhood a second time, and now there's a bunch of people standing in a circle whining: He stole our candy, the mindfucker!!  :P

 

My seventh word was a typo... :P





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