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whow, claps applause, we have and had a new record i think: 10 months, 3 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and a handfull sex, aeh secs without a topic or an discussion about genders here at 3dx! so once evrything was already written, like lots of other things, in other endless returning circletopics and posts and so once also all was said there and here maybe, mostly and meanwhile again...ill just quote myself, get back to study and only leave a 'ps' to kreamSoda: you actually answered your own question by yourself, while thinkn and writn of it^^ just sayn

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I don't really care about the gender behind the keyboard till there's respect and fun shared.

Once the drama and wannabe attitudes show up then it's really time to run away for life.

 

Even if it's surely easier to find guys playing as futanari and exclusive for women, not even knowing the difference between that definition and a tgirl, but again if there's a safe gameplay and interest shared I don't see the reason to wonder about the real gender, unless they're looking for their prince/princess and for rl stuff. In that case they can only blame themselves for having mixed rl with a game.

Play as you prefer it's the right line, but with certain limits as I still remember a guy called Donald_Trump hanging around at the NightClub  :ph34r:

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As there seems to be a few coming in this thread now that seem to be suggesting that if people get hurt by someone playing a different gender to their own then it is their own fault, I thought it time to say what had been said in other threads.

Everybody plays their own game and wants to get different things from it, no one is really right or wrong in the way they look at this game.

There are people that want to be something entirely different to what they are in real life and others that play very much as themselves.

Neither should insist on the other playing their game or insist that the game should only cater for one or the other.

People should respect what others want and what they want from the game even if it means their game conflicts with their own.

Saying that if someone is burnt by a player who wishes to hide their gender is their own fault as it is just a game really means you are not respecting that persons wishes.

If a person makes it clear either in their profile or even just telling you that the gender of the person behind the keyboard matters to them, then you need to respect that and not pursue any relations where that matters to that person.

If you do then it is you to blame for any problems that arise from it, not that player.

Using the excuse it is just a game or it is the Internet and people should expect it is not a valid reason to just dis respect another persons wishes.

If a person makes it clear that it matters to them and you choose to ignore that and pursue things with that person, then no matter what excuses you may come up with you are choosing to dismiss and dis respect that persons wishes.

You may not agree that is how things should be in the game, but by just dismissing how others feel means you are forcing your opinion of how the game should be played on others.

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I don't really care about the gender behind the keyboard till there's respect and fun shared.

Once the drama and wannabe attitudes show up then it's really time to run away for life.

 

Even if it's surely easier to find guys playing as futanari and exclusive for women, not even knowing the difference between that definition and a tgirl, but again if there's a safe gameplay and interest shared I don't see the reason to wonder about the real gender, unless they're looking for their prince/princess and for rl stuff. In that case they can only blame themselves for having mixed rl with a game.

Play as you prefer it's the right line, but with certain limits as I still remember a guy called Donald_Trump hanging around at the NightClub  :ph34r:

 

I agree with much of what you say but question one thing: 'In that case they can only blame themselves for having mixed rl with a game'

 

If I treated this as a game entirely detached from rl, then by definition, I would input nothing of myself; just play a character or no character at all. I wouldn't laugh at my keyboard when someone says something funny, I wouldn't get pissed off when someone says something offensive. I wouldn't get close to a specific person but play lucky dip with the avis on show or just go cold inviting. If I expressed an opinion, it wouldn't be mine - I'd just google the topic and select a view by random. I'd call people who I met in-game friends, but I'd have no particular disposition towards them in reality. And yeah, I'd tell someone I cared, but I wouldn't, not really.

 

That's absurd of course, because we all mix the game with real life - it just depends how and how much. Otherwise the sexual fantasy people are so keen to protect is just fapping at pixelated porn and typing out things we don't really mean. That might work for some, but I need more... and therefore give more doing so. But then we all do that, if we take a step back and are honest. Maybe withholding ones real life gender is a form of self-preservation, but I wish those who do it would be braver.

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There is one thing i have never understood, i am not commenting on last couple posts about people saying its the people getting hurt fault because frankly they are a douche and im 90 percent certain they are the dudes doing it. anyways......

and this is a legit question, I understand about trans gendered, this isnt towards them but i always found it interesting how dudes, in female avis   use a cock 80 percent of the time. wtf is the point of being female if all you are going to do is use a cock 

 

50% of the time would be more accurate I think, because the other 50% of the time the other dudett gets to use her cock, his cock, it's cock, oh god now I am confused. their cock....

(The above is not meant to be any dis respect to TGs, men, women, gays, lesbians, cats or dogs.)

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 but i always found it interesting how dudes, in female avis   use a cock 80 percent of the time. 

 

How would you know? 

 

I always find it interesting that spouting nonsense about things you simply have very little to no experience with never gives you pause at all.

 

I have been openly transgender on this site for almost three years. I never hear this kind of nonsense from transgender players. And somehow it seems that It's always cis-gender players who get all judgmental and have trouble understanding that sexual identity is not tethered to the body.

 

Not all transgender players are the same.

Many consider themselves T-girls and play as "chicks with dicks."  So, yeah, they always use their dick because that is their sexual identity.

Many consider themselves hermaphrodites and play half and half. That is what I consider myself, by the way.

Many consider themselves transwomen and never use a dick at all.

 

Your "80 percent of the time" has no basis in reality and simply demonstrates that you don't know what you are talking about.

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 how exactly would you know i have no experiance. perhaps i have family members in real who are TG's. so you are just as much guessing as you seem to think i am

 

Nice try, troll. But we both know that I was referring specifically to your claim that "dudes, in female avis   use a cock 80 percent of the time."

 

So having people in your family who are transgender is is irrelevant to this specific discussion.

 

So again, you claim that "dudes, in female avis   use a cock 80 percent of the time," and I say: You don't know what you are talking about, troll. So STFU.

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Now before anyone just thinks I am trying to cause trouble here I am not, I am trying to understand exactly what a transgender is and what is going on in our game.

From what I understand and have read a transgender is a person, say a female born in a male body, they have female charactoristics and feelings, basically female chemistry but have a male body.

The thing I struggle to understand and find an answer to is that most of the transgenders in 3DXChat seem to only go for females, even though they say male and females in their preference I rarely see them going for men.

Am I missing something in what I have read, wouldn't a person that has female charactoristics and feelings, female chemistry, wouldn't they generally want to go for guys?

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Now before anyone just thinks I am trying to cause trouble here I am not, I am trying to understand exactly what a transgender is and what is going on in our game.

From what I understand and have read a transgender is a person, say a female born in a male body, they have female charactoristics and feelings, basically female chemistry but have a make body.

The thing I struggle to understand and find an answer to is that most of the transgenders in 3DXChat seem to only go for females, even though they say male and females in their preference I rarely see them going for men.

Am I missing something in what I have read, wouldn't a person that has female charactoristics and feelings, female chemistry, wouldn't they generally want to go for guys?

Well you are mostly right. A transgender is a man who has had the surgery to completely become a woman in appearance after going through hormone treatments and vise versa for women who has had the surgery to completely become a man after hormone treatments, but to say that because they have female characteristics, feelings, and chemistry that they should be going for females is wrong. It's like saying a truly feminine woman not a stud should go for guys when in actuality a feminine woman can be straight, bi, or lesbian. I mean just, cause they have female chemistry doesn't mean they don't have male chemistry. Them being transgender simply means they want to completely look like the gender they want to be not so much as be a gender to particularly go for a certain gender in a sexual or even romantic way.

 

I just realized that you might have meant female genetics which is what I was thinking of when you said chemistry then I kinda ran with it. However having female genetics and so on as I said doesn't mean one should go for a particular gender romantically or even sexually. They could in fact go for one or the other if not both.

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As I have said in the past I am a Hetero male, my reasons for playing a female avi do not centre solely around the sex aspect of it, one day I will write my own diary of my time here and go into the other reasons. But in regards to the sex aspect of it, using a cock 80 percent of the time couldn't be further from the truth my first  9 months of playing a female avi was purely lesbian sex even with my partner knowing I was male. And even now mostly the only time I use a cock is when I am been asked to Dom my partner.

 

Edit to a previous post: I think I said I had played a female avi  for 9 months, due to my brain been a bit scattered from  rl issues I have realised its 1 year 9 months.

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Sounds complecated, all I can say is I am glad I was born a female with female bits.

 

You and me both, but the information is out there. People just have to do what I did to better understand it. I googled it after this post was made. I would never ever in life want to change my sex from being a woman to being a man, cause if it was meant for me to be a man I would've been born that way. I love my kids and having experienced pregnancy to wish I was a man.

 

You're right though life as a transgender does indeed seem complicated,

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To be completely honest I believe that a good number if not most of the Tgirls in 3DXhat are not transgenders at all, rather they are guys playning girls for other reasons.

Some have said it is esier to be a girl in the game and they get action much easier that way, others I would believe just want to experience some of what it is like to be a girl.

I have often, well not often, sometimes wondered what it would be like to be a guy, though I doubt I would ever make a male avi and try to experience that.

I would also have to say that the ones that are playing girls that are truely hetrosexual males and choose to not tell anyone so, I think they are doing harm to the true Tgirls more than anyone else.

I am not against anyone wanting to experiment, try things and find answers to things, play as the opposite sex for whatever reason, not against it at all and can well understand that.

It is when they choose to hide it completely, not care about what others want from their game and think they have a right to do so is what I object to and will never agree to.

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I find reading this thread fascinating. I have to admit, I have learned a lot about transgenderism from 3DX, it was an aspect of sexuality with which I was not familiar until I joined, and learning about the different ways people express their sexuality and gender has been a huge positive for me.

 

I do wonder though, if many of the guys who play as girls without revealing their true gender identity and don't profess to be TG are more in denial with themselves than intentionally meaning to deceive by playing a girl as a entirely heterosexual male at keyboard. I'm not even sure the concept of ring-fenced sexuality is a genuine one and that we all to some degree have blurred boundaries which for most are so indistinct they have no impact on behaviour.

 

I've never made a female avi which has entered this world, in fact I'd never had more than one active character until recently when I made another male who we used for some scripted role play in our private rooms, and a female avi - once again only in private - so my girl could show me the lesbian poses (I know, tough life).

 

But if I did make a female avi and take her into the public zones - by definition all sexualised environments - then I suspect at the root of that would be a subconscious exploration of another aspect to my sense of self; sexual or gender.

 

I guess, the nub of the matter is the nature of the game we play, where a mere click of a button at the birth of an alt decides girl or boy, instantly defining the visual triggers of gender for those who see us, with all the assumptions those triggers entail.

 

As with all aspects of life - real and virtual - it's what we do, not who we are that counts. There are no extra responsibilities on transgender players to be better people than anyone else but if someone uses the differing connections which can be formed by relating to others as a male and female, as mechanisms for emotional manipulation - and I have seen that first hand - then people are going to rail against this and form illogical generalisations.

 

So this issue isn't who is male, who is female, who is transgender etc etc, it's who plays games with other people's lives and feelings. It's human nature to look for reasons for why people act against our own interests and to identify points of difference as to why they do. But pointing the finger at a gender and lassoing all who fall under that umbrella as acting with the same motive is simplistic. Everyone is capable of good and bad, however they choose to project themselves onto others.

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whow, claps applause, we have and had a new record i think: 10 months, 3 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and a handfull sex, aeh secs without a topic or an discussion about genders here at 3dx! so once evrything blah blah and so on

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just for the protocol, cause i just saw a nother topic thats younger as my 3dx meme gendertopic post in 2015 that i posted on page 2 here and so "the new record" wasnt 10 months at all, but nearly lasted 8 months and so still comes up to: 

 

242 days, 5 hours, 4 minutes and 0 seconds

 

alternative time units:

 

20.927.040 seconds

348.784 minutes

5813 hours (rounded down)

34 weeks (rounded down)

66,18% of 2016

 

 

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just sayn and have a good week

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LOL I should've fucked more people.  :lol: Maybe I woulda found me a girl pretending to be a guy.

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Somewhat a common thing in traditional gaming. I know a lot of women elsewhere who play as male characters to avoid attention or special treatment.

 

In this environment or any adult online environment though I'm sorry to say but I believe you'll find 90%+ of the entire 3DX member-base are male. There's a few ladies around, but they're heavily outnumbered and as a previous poster said it'd be a very boring environment if people all played true-to-real-life. If that's the kind of environment you prefer then you're making a mistake coming to a 'game' like this. People are indulging in fantasy fun and exploration here, and the more real-life you introduce to that the less fantasy you can enjoy. It's self-defeating, which is why I'm never surprised to see people frustrated that they can't find a real girlfriend here, or starting another thread disjointed after just discovered some girls/futas etc on the internet are really men.

 

I have not ever, ever once heard of any real-life romance story or serious real relationship come out of 3DX. It's not what this place is for.

 

If this is what you seek then YOU are doing this wrong. You WILL end up frustrated and disappointed.

 

My real-life is good. If I want a relationship I'll go to plenty of fish.com. I do love a good erotic puppet-show though and come here to roleplay fictional characters enjoying fictional lives in a fictional world. It's fantastic for that. But while I'm roleplaying that's not to say everything I express through my characters is fictional. If you ask Lumi how she is and she says "great!" then chances are I'm doing great in real life too. But if you start to ask where I live, how old I am, what gender, if I'm in a relationship, do I look like my avi etc I'll just reply ((No real life, sorry)) and walk away.

That's all 3DX is to me - a puppet show. It's none of my business who or what is behind your character, and honestly to keep the feeling of immersion I don't want to know. Likewise it's none of your business who or what I am in the real world.

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