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I was in world the other day and some guy starts attacking some girl, etc. anyways he says he knows who she is and mentions a ip hack. Now i could give two shits about who knows my alts. hell just ask and i will tell you but i do care about some freak fucking around and getting my ip. its an invasion of my privacy and everyone elses. Now i dont know if this is true or not. He could have just been blowing smoke out of his ass  but if it is true, i would hope things of this nature gets the people who do it banned. 

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I suppose there are a lot of ways of getting your IP address in the internet, not so much trough the game but it is easy through the forums, but then, I don't think there's much one can do with a simple IP address. :o

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As far as I know, no one can ever find out who you are from your IP address. Only your ISP knows that. The IP address only really shows the location of your ISP datacenter which could be miles away from your actual location.

 

That's true :)

With a IP as private person you can check the current Country and the location of the dial up Data centre and also the Internet Provider.

Your Internet Provider saves your Personal Datas temporary and it's possible for authorities institutions to get this Data!

 

For example about Internet criminals, copyrights abusing etc. But no private person get this Data!

 

The most internet Users have a Dynamic IP Address, this IP changes all 24hours.

Some internet Users have a Static IP Address, with this IP's is it easier to attack someone as Hacker because the user have only this one IP.

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And since i am on a roll.......

 

How in the holy hell is is against the rules to discuss C/E, link it .. hell even talk about it but its ok to have 50 rooms in game that have it???   is it just me or is that highly stupid. If you are going to allow it, which you clearly do then give everyone the chance to use it or take them all away

 

 

Thats sort of like saying djs cant have illegal music but if you already have it, then thats ok. 

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And since i am on a roll.......

 

How in the holy hell is is against the rules to discuss C/E, link it .. hell even talk about it but its ok to have 50 rooms in game that have it???   is it just me or is that highly stupid. If you are going to allow it, which you clearly do then give everyone the chance to use it or take them all away

 

Forum is Forum, Game is Game, Rules are Rules.

I'm there to support the Community Rules and not to Fix a 2th Party Software Problem.

 

Topics and posts to discuss cheats, Hacks etc against the Rules so easy is it.

 

Back to topic please and send your cheat problem to the support ;)

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I was in world the other day and some guy starts attacking some girl, etc. anyways he says he knows who she is and mentions a ip hack. Now i could give two shits about who knows my alts. hell just ask and i will tell you but i do care about some freak fucking around and getting my ip. its an invasion of my privacy and everyone elses. Now i dont know if this is true or not. He could have just been blowing smoke out of his ass  but if it is true, i would hope things of this nature gets the people who do it banned. 

 

I agree Rob ......thank you for the post .....

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And since i am on a roll.......

 

How in the holy hell is is against the rules to discuss C/E, link it .. hell even talk about it but its ok to have 50 rooms in game that have it???   is it just me or is that highly stupid. If you are going to allow it, which you clearly do then give everyone the chance to use it or take them all away

 

 

Thats sort of like saying djs cant have illegal music but if you already have it, then thats ok. 

 

Makes perfect sense to me ....let everyone have it or take it away ......

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The hack being referred to is real, or at least was, I don't know if it is still possible as it was addressed by the devs some time ago.

When the iggy was changed to not iggy against the full account it was done for that reason,

That was confirmed by Gizmo when he answered a question I asked in these forums, although I don't think many people understood what was being talked about at the time.

They were able to use some sort of hack to gain information on what your avis were on your account, and before anyone goes off about getting info from your account, it was the only info they could get.

If you were in a location where they were, somehow they could iggy you and get the names of other avis you had on that account.

I know it to be true because I had it done to me and proven it was no lie, I took screen shots of the conversation and reported it to Ash.

It was the reason that the ignore system was changed from ignore of all avis on your account to just the avi you ignored, so they could not use that hack.

I believe that before they put it back the problem was fixed in other ways to prevent them form being able to get the names of your other avis, maybe Ash or Achilles can confirm that, if not maybe Gizmo can.

I would say the person that put that in world knew of the hack and is lieing about being able to use it.

But if it is still there then something needs to be done about it.

 

As for the other thing that has come up in this thread, something needs to be done about that to.

It is creating a division in the community that is getting out of hand.

There are those that use it and those that wont because they feel rules are something that should be abided by.

There has been so many arguments about it lately, in these rooms and around the game and several posts that have ended up removed or closed.

If I am for or against it doesn't matter here, I am trying to make it clear here that it is causing problems and it will just get worse.

 

To start enforcing the rule will create bigger problems as there are now so many using it and have put so much work into it.

To not enforce the rule will  have more and more people complaining about it not being enforced and the arguments will continue.

I have seen it end friendships.

So I will make a suggestion on what I feel can be done that will be as fare as I think it can be by everyone.

 

The devs need to add certain features to rooms to allow us to do what the cheat is mainly being used to do.

Those features are a decent way to make stages and dance floors and be able to change the "Y" coordinate on objects.

I think a way to be able to apply pictures on walls woud be another good thing to add as it will enable people to make signs to name their clubs.

They need to announce a release date for those things to be added and also say that when they are released that the rule for the cheat will start to be enforced.

And the rule will need to be enforced.

 

That is the only way I can see out of the mess it has created and stop it from getting worse.

 

Rules are rules, we have to abide by them in these forums, why are they allowed to be broken in the game itself.

If nothing is done the arguments about it and the division it is creating will just continue to get worse and I suggest it has already got to a stage where it needs to be acted on right away.

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doesnt matter what an ip addy shows, the whole point is it shouldnt be allowed to happen. hell your drivers license doesnt show much either but do you want a bunch of bozos hacking your stuff and knowing it?

 

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Oh i knew your IP for years now Rob :3 i guess you wore wondering who was sending you all this flowers, well, now you know :3

bahahahaha, stalker

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I was in world the other day and some guy starts attacking some girl, etc. anyways he says he knows who she is and mentions a ip hack. Now i could give two shits about who knows my alts. hell just ask and i will tell you but i do care about some freak fucking around and getting my ip. its an invasion of my privacy and everyone elses. Now i dont know if this is true or not. He could have just been blowing smoke out of his ass  but if it is true, i would hope things of this nature gets the people who do it banned. 

Very often girls scare the fact that somebody know their ip.

This is nonsense and bullshit

There is no way to know a game user IP - if you are not an administrator or moderator of the site / game / forum (to determine the user location - the country, the Internet provider, for ban, double accounts finding , etc)

So you can safely send this man to hell.

Also - WIN7/10 systems adequately protected against IP hackers attack.

Firewalls WIN7/10 very good works.

Your IP gives information only about your provider and country of residence. Attack you on your ip will not work. You are protected by a provider firewall ( your provider and the provider of the fool who tries to attack you), the router firewall and the WIN7/10 firewall.

 

Knowledge user IP gives nothing (if you no game/ site/forum moderator or administrator).

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Modern security system of the Internet service providers lead to temporary block the attacker in ip. These systems detect DDoS attack attempts
Attack can only server (or site/ forum). For example - the game server. Massive DDoS attack (hundreds of computers). And Gizmo (and we) will cry :)
But now there are anti DDoS attack solution -for sites and servers. Perhaps our server already has it.

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The hack being referred to is real, or at least was, I don't know if it is still possible as it was addressed by the devs some time ago.

When the iggy was changed to not iggy against the full account it was done for that reason,

That was confirmed by Gizmo when he answered a question I asked in these forums, although I don't think many people understood what was being talked about at the time.

They were able to use some sort of hack to gain information on what your avis were on your account, and before anyone goes off about getting info from your account, it was the only info they could get.

If you were in a location where they were, somehow they could iggy you and get the names of other avis you had on that account.

I know it to be true because I had it done to me and proven it was no lie, I took screen shots of the conversation and reported it to Ash.

It was the reason that the ignore system was changed from ignore of all avis on your account to just the avi you ignored, so they could not use that hack.

I believe that before they put it back the problem was fixed in other ways to prevent them form being able to get the names of your other avis, maybe Ash or Achilles can confirm that, if not maybe Gizmo can.

I would say the person that put that in world knew of the hack and is lieing about being able to use it.

But if it is still there then something needs to be done about it.

 

As for the other thing that has come up in this thread, something needs to be done about that to.

It is creating a division in the community that is getting out of hand.

There are those that use it and those that wont because they feel rules are something that should be abided by.

There has been so many arguments about it lately, in these rooms and around the game and several posts that have ended up removed or closed.

If I am for or against it doesn't matter here, I am trying to make it clear here that it is causing problems and it will just get worse.

 

Yes a Hack like this was there but it's fixed already long time ago.

It was also possible to abuse the stream functions to get Data like this but it's also fixed long time ago because the listeners and players are now behind Proxy Servers and also is the Listeners view function for each DJ on public Locations removed.

 

The devs need to add certain features to rooms to allow us to do what the cheat is mainly being used to do.

 

Those features are a decent way to make stages and dance floors and be able to change the "Y" coordinate on objects.

 

I think a way to be able to apply pictures on walls woud be another good thing to add as it will enable people to make signs to name their clubs.

 

They need to announce a release date for those things to be added and also say that when they are released that the rule for the cheat will start to be enforced.

 

And the rule will need to be enforced.

 

A discuss about cheats and Hacks in this Forum has only one advantage.

You show the Members with interest about cheats and Hacks what's needed to do^^ Only the name of the cheat tool will at least support the cheats :)

With a discussion to prevent cheats you reach the converse!

 

A object positions editor as implanted Game Functions was already by myself requested long time ago...

But it's not my choices to add functions like this :)

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I think it's the threatening behaviour outlined in the original post which is more disturbing than the (apparently now empty) threat of discovering an IP address. On the rare occasions I 'accidentally' stumble a porn site there are often ads embedded on the home page which very generously offers me the name of a girl wanting sex, and luckily for me she lives close by. I know, amazing isn't it? Except, this blatant IP-based scam often gets my location wrong by 20kms. In a densely populated environment that will amount to tens of thousands of people and represents a huge geographical area. I'll take the odds.

 

In the UK (yes, I'm happy to narrow anyone's search for me down to just 60m people) the personal details attached to an individual's IP address is protected by data legislation which means even the law enforcement agencies have to apply for court order to obtain it. I'm not naive, and recognise laws can be circumnavigated, but not by a troll in a sex game.

 

In essence, an IP address is a typically geographically-vague, non-identifying piece of information which, yes, is worth protecting from exposure but is unlikely to cause harm should it fall into the hands of someone else.

 

What would be more useful is if people in-game reported people displaying any form of threatening behaviour, and the conduct of the person in world chat clearly falls into that category. Posts like these certainly help make us aware of potential risks (I didn't know about the IP address hack which was possible in the past, for example) but we don't want to make people paranoid or worry unduly because of them either.

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While ignorance may be bliss, Knowledge is power.  As far as it being a real thing, i happen to know for a fact it was being used as little as 5 months ago or so. If its been fixed thats fine.

 

 

With that i have spoken my peace and done talking about it. I should have prob reported it but i can barely understand what he says half the time and by the time he did, Message was gone. I will know better next time.

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As Maxxim pointed out it only will show the datacenter which as noted can be miles from your location. However, if someone decides to be a bit more free when talking to others. They can additionally give someone their name, maybe even surrounding places they live by, etc. I know its like who cares. In extreme events someone could find you if they really wanted with semi information just knowing the city you are in, and whatever you decide to tell others. Its a good practice, really it is, to not state your last name online, any indication where in that city you live, or anything personally identifying ie for example saying you work for a real estate company. And lets just say in this example there are only 3 real estate buildings in that city. Someone could with first and last, technically just with first, but that's a hell of a lot harder as you'd also need additional information. They could call up all 3 companies asking for [first and last name here] and eventually if you told them the truth of working at a real estate company. They will now also have a place where you work.

 

A side information to all of this and persistence. I would say in a good way, though going against a supplied request. My brother was in the hospital but never told his family where he was, nothing. Using information of where he last was with his cell phone call with my mother. I then contacted the surrounding hospitals and even EMT's and even the fire departments. I found he was located in a certain hospital with a request for the hospital to keep his identity private. The only way I got the information was pleading with these other outside departments of a sick brother. Whom do not have this agreement like the hospitals. I then contacted the records department of that hospital and spoke with a elderly woman about the issue, whom gave me the information (in truth doing so she could have lost her job). Now see this was for a good reason. We finally got ahold of him, though he was moved again to another hospital (his condition was too extreme for that hospital to manage) and sadly at the beginning of this year he passed away. If it wasn't for peoples compassion I would never have found him. We would never have been able to talk to him before he passed on. We would never have had that final closure. Which is something everyone wants with a loved one, otherwise it festers a lot of bad feelings. And we were thankful to get it.

 

Now take that level of compassion of others and apply it to someone wanting to do bad or harm to you. They can if they have enough information to do so. Always keep everything of real life private, yes even your phone number. So many want to reach out, to trust others, to engage and bond. There is a reason scary stories of meeting people online exist. Regardless if this meeting was planned or unplanned, ie someone stalking etc. Some want to think I am being extreme, paranoid, then its often those people who run into bad stories. So one should take heed and take charge in what they tell others, even if you feel they are trusting. Does it mean you have to lie about yourself? No not at all. I enjoy telling people of myself and of the real me. Though always keep a limit on whats disclosed and always away from anything that can be identifiable.

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