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Make the friendlist account wide


Veronique

Making friendlist account wide  

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  1. 1. Do you want to have an account wide friendlist?

    • YES, you should see 2nd avas of your friends in friendlist
      28
    • NO, 2nd avas of friends should not be shown
      40


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Hello all!
 
After playing this game for a while now I really would like to see an account-wide friendlist. This means that you are able to identify 2nd avas as someone you have in your fl with another ava. This already exists with the blacklist, which of course makes sense. But the same way it makes sense for the friendlist! The same arguments that have been considered when blacklist was made account wide count for the friendlist as well in my opinion.
 
This could be realized either by setting account names, for example:

my account name: Vero

my first ava: Veronique

my 2nd ava: SecondAva (just as example!)

 

so you would see in your fl either Veronique (Vero) or SecondAva (Vero)

 

Or by showing the name you friendlisted that person with the first time in brackets, so you would see Veronique (Veronique) or SecondAva (Veronique), even if you have not added the 2nd yet.
 
This topic has already been discussed more than a year ago in this thread:
http://3dxforum.com/index.php?/topic/456-why-multiple-avatars-per-account/?hl=friendlist
 
And Riela gave this suggestion:

 
 

You can't removes features without making part of your playerbase very angry and unhappy ... even when I agree with you Jola.
Those 3 slots, we could assume are for RP originally - one for each gender - and not abused the way we all saw.
 
 
My suggestion is to fix it like other social games do.
Players set one ID or one name for account that would appear in every character profile he/she create. 
Those IDs would be like this:
-  In friendlist you would have name of character for example Jola ... but you decided to set your ID to Eleonore so it would show there as well ie. Jola (Eleonore), Cryska (fufunny) etc
-  In profile there is space next to About: and could be written there as well.
-  make friendlist global (like it already is with user rooms - you can enter on any character to friend room even if you dont have them in friendlist on that character) but this could also be very negative thing for various reasons that I am not getting into now.
 
I am not sure how hard it is to implement it but this would please both RP people and would fix alt problem. Of course there is still problem with people who owns multiple accounts. But even IP locks are easy to get by now.



 
I know that there are pros and cons to have the current not account-wide system, for example a pro would be that you can take a break of prestering people on a 2nd ava. But I encountered many players that misuse the possibilities given by secret avatars to fool and hurt their friends. So in my opinion with the system we currently have the cons weight far more, which makes it for me necessary to change the system to be account-wide.
 
cheers, Vero :)

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And suddenly , everyone have 300 friends . 

 

It was usefull for the ignore list to ignore all the avatars of the account , but i dont see any interrest for anyone to have Tiffa ( my second avi ) that i used only once for a cosplay event . 

 

Peoples want 3 avis ? well let them have them .

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There easily could be the option for that as a simple as a check box if you wish to share your friends on one avi with the others. Most of the people in game wouldn't use that feature because of the simple fact, they may not want everyone on another avi or they want to just be alone on there.  While there are some that use the avis for other things, it's simply the choice of the person and they can note it on their profile.

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I agree with you Veronique on the point that the possibility to use alts are being wildly misused in the game. In my eyes misuse of alts create a lot more havoc and drama in the game than the by some much hated fact that some people play an avi with another gender than their rl one.

Discovering a "friend" playing an alt behind your back is a sickening experience and when i see it my relation to that person is ruined forever.

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Hi Vero,

 

I agree with you in the point that secondary avatars are misused by a lot of people. But changing the rules of the "game" ist something which should be done very careful. 

 

What about the following idea: If you have an avatar from a player already on your friend list, a hint is shown in the profile of the secondary avatar:

 

"You have the warm feeling to already know this players."

 

It is just a hint, the name of the avatar you have already on your FL is not shown. Now you can ask him to reveal his true identity :)

 

 

KISS

Chloe

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There easily could be the option for that as a simple as a check box if you wish to share your friends on one avi with the others. Most of the people in game wouldn't use that feature because of the simple fact, they may not want everyone on another avi or they want to just be alone on there.  While there are some that use the avis for other things, it's simply the choice of the person and they can note it on their profile.

 

 

A check box could be created, with a "secondary" friends list where you could see the avatars of your friends who checked.

This way, you have a proper friend list and an extended one.

 

But sharing our avatars' names in the profile would be way easier indeed.

 

 

Hi Vero,

 

I agree with you in the point that secondary avatars are misused by a lot of people. But changing the rules of the "game" ist something which should be done very careful. 

 

What about the following idea: If you have an avatar from a player already on your friend list, a hint is shown in the profile of the secondary avatar:

 

"You have the warm feeling to already know this players."

 

It is just a hint, the name of the avatar you have already on your FL is not shown. Now you can ask him to reveal his true identity :)

 

 

KISS

Chloe

 

I love these ideas, thank you all fr that. anything that helps to end the misuse would be great.

 

I know that my suggestion is too much for many players. But it is a common thing in non-sexual mmos, so I am already used to it :)

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I Agree with Vero I started with Another avi BlackRaven and I tell any and everyone I have Nothing to hide, some are using these avi the play and troll and hurt others , people might not like what I say well I don't care cause I am sick of it , and yes I always take my time with a person , and it seems they will wait you out get what they want and still delete avi, I have times when I want to be alone to and understand that option, But I have so much fear now of new people hard to move around in 3D anymore, and I am sure there are others that feel the same as me

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I would like it, basically same system as wow or gw 2 uses,

Account wide ID would prevent lots of pain and drama here,

more people would be forced to get second account if they want to screw with others. ofcourse there are many but it would help a lil bit for sure.

I can't see negative of this except maybe some guess the person event like we had in past but ofcourse many people will bark that's bad bad thing :rolleyes:

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I would like it, basically same system as wow or gw 2 uses,

Account wide ID would prevent lots of pain and drama here,

more people would be forced to get second account if they want to screw with others. ofcourse there are many but it would help a lil bit for sure.

I can't see negative of this except maybe some guess the person event like we had in past but ofcourse many people will bark that's bad bad thing :rolleyes:

Well, peoples getting multiple accounts mean more money for the game and it owners. Hehe.

 

There at least one positive thing with multiple account. ;)

 

Unique account ID is something I brought months ago and I still think it a balance solution to the issues with multiple characters.

 

It far from a perfect but it bring a sense of accountability for someone actions throught is account.

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it is absolutely ok if people have different opinions, therefore it is a poll, to see what ppl want. Having another opinion does not necessarily mean you have to start a drama, it always depends on the ones involved in discussion.

 

the fact that it is a draw at this time shows that a not so strict option could be benefitial, e.g. as suggested by Chloe.

 

 

 

p.s.: The ones that want to start drama are recommended to open a drama thread :)

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Another problem is : Even if you give people the choice of telling the others the name of the secondaries avatars or not, you have to make sure there is no way to know if someones got more characters. Or else, it's kinda pointless.

 

I voted no, by the way. I do not believe in the whole unique friendID thing.

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Just curious how do you plan on making and account wide ID all together, do user get to choose one permanent user ID name, because another problem i see if its based of their email address if making user vulnerable to hacking attacks if someone can see their payment account email address?

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If this kind of solution is ever implement, it actually fairly easy.

 

I can be an unique ID number given by the database.

 

You dont want to use the email adresse. I can also think of a couple naming schemes.

 

The technical side is easy. It really more about the community and the direction the game is taking.

 

It where it can get complex. The proof is that ignore are already account wide.

 

Let say it wouldn't be the hardest thing to put in place.

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Will have to do the function for those who want it and for those who do not want it .

Agree to show / disagree to show (or same) for exemple . Would it be wrong to do it against of those or other .

But this means that you will not be able to see all what you want . Another dead end . 

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I understand what you are trying to tell Vero, but i don't think we should force Players to reveal themselfs.

It would be better if we had the choice to do so or not.

Or even better everyone gets only one character per account then the Problem would be solved, since i don't believe many would multi-account.

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yes absolutely agree to skar :)

 

I don't say my suggestion is best, and there were already some very nice other suggestions. Also I don't want to forbid someone to have multiple avas, as it is a feature we all pay for. So you can't cut it down to 1 again. Just would like to see the possibility to know if someone is already on my fl with another ava. This could even be voluntary, even if most would not use it I still would know that I can trust the ones that do. Not meaning I can't trust the ones that don't ofc. in dubio pro reo...

 

@ Cyra: no reason to be sorry, everyone should have its own opinion and state it, thats what polls or discussion threads are for, and only this way we do know what the community wants and maybe find a better solution :)

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